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Post Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Guys, I'm looking really hard at doing a single front mount turbo setup using the Modular Turbo truck manifold kit. I had a lengthy conversation with Rob @ Modular yesterday and I'm disappointed to find out that the front sway bar has to go to fit this front crossover. I talked with him a bit about ideas on how to retain the sway bar via repositioning or such but didn't really have any solid ideas. I've crawled under the car and looked at where the sway bar mounts to the frame and in theory it may be possible to put spacer blocks between the sway bar mount and the frame rail to lower the sway bar down to clear the crossover piping, but I'm not so sure if it's a good idea. Take a look at this pictures of the turbo piping and let me know if you have any ideas on what could be done to keep the front sway bar on the car. Unfortunately, keeping the sway bar is a must for me. If it has to go, I won't be doing the turbo.


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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
how far out is that sticking? It looks like alot. You would need some huge spacers to keep the stock sway bar. I'm not even sure you could do that because of the angle the sway bar would have to be. Know any place that makes custom bent sway bars? Good luck. That looks like a tough one.


Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:20 am
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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Yeah, it just looks like too many variables with doing a front mount turbo, so I've abandoned the idea. Might go with a Procharger down the road instead.

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Dumb question, but why not a rear mount?

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Harner wrote:
Dumb question, but why not a rear mount?


I was thinking the same thing. I know they do this with Datsun's for the rear suspension. I started to think about it, though, and I am just not sure if there is enough room for front suspension. You have to worry about suspension, steering, and that turbo and it's plumbing. Lots of things to make sure you don't hit or block. It might be doable, though.


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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
There is room where the factory cats go, I've seen a few with twin turbo set ups like that

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
I have researched an STS setup but every single thread I've seen by an STS owner, they've changed a myriad of things. There's the base price of the kit, then there's the nickel and diming to "upgrade" or even fix some of the flaws of the system. Just looking at the cost of those things and the rear mount begins to get pretty expensive. The ship has already sailed for the rear mount anyway as I have a GMMG catback on the way already.

There are twin turbo kits out there that tuck the turbos next to the block, but they are serious dollars. Way more than I'm looking to spend.

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Buy an EBAY kit and swap out the turbos

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Necro thread :) Out of curiosity, why is retaining the sway bar a must?

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
I know a guy who cusotmizes alot of stuff. Axle shortening, lengthening frame work and more. I can find out if he can fab this.

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
I know where there is a nice 88mm turbonetics y2k turbo for sale cheap :mrgreen:

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Y2KFirehawk wrote:
Necro thread :) Out of curiosity, why is retaining the sway bar a must?


Disconnect your front sway bar and go for a ride. Find out REAL quick

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http://cnj.craigslist.org/pts/4165709363.html

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
That looks like a lot of fab work to be able to use that setup. Core support was removed which prob means a diff radiator. If that much work is put in why not mount it so you can retain the sway bar?

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
n2o-armd wrote:
That looks like a lot of fab work to be able to use that setup. Core support was removed which prob means a diff radiator. If that much work is put in why not mount it so you can retain the sway bar?

From the looks of the pics, it does retain the sway bar.

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Sway bar is there in the pic

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
I didn't even take notice to the sway bar. My bad.

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Wow, back from the dead!

The one feature I liked about the Modular Turbo setup in my original post is that it retains the factory radiator and fan setup in their stock locations. No standing up the radiator. No swapping the fans around to the front of the radiator. Modular said that they believe that the sway bar will go back on by using 1" square tube for spacers under the mounts. I've since abandoned the idea of going turbo and am buying a boat instead. I'm considering just selling the car since I don't touch it at all anymore.

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
Would a K-member give you more room to run the plumbing over the sway bar? BMR makes a turbo specific one for 4th Gen's, not sure where it gives you the extra room though.

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Post Re: Need some ideas on front sway bar and turbo
A turbo k-member would give more clearance for the downpipes. The crossover is the part that resides where the sway bar goes. The reason the crossover is so low is to give space for the turbo to sit behind the stock fans. Modular took a lot of time getting the merge just right to allow room for the turbo to have room without moving the stock fans.

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