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 The end of car modding? 
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Post The end of car modding?
If the EPA gets it's way, they are going to make it illegal to modify emissions for any vehicle that has had a previous certification, even if it is for off road use only. A max fine of $37,500 can be inflicted per vehicle or per engine. The specifics of grandfathering and when/if at a certain age they become exempt isn't clear, but it could have serious repercussions for some of our vehicles.

http://jalopnik.com/the-epas-crackdown- ... 5053744356

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Post Re: The end of car modding?
As someone who has never had an emissions test on any vehicle I've owned, I highly doubt this will happen. Lots of crazy laws are proposed to our government, this one happens to impact our hobby/lives so everyone has their pitchforks in hand. I'll believe it when I see it. And even then, I'm not unmodding any of my vehicles for the sake of EPA. Just my opinion :coffee

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After spending a week at SEMA I find it hard to believe anything like this could be passed that could destroy an industry of that magnitude. I guess this gives us something to watch along with the gun control debates.
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Well really the law hasn't changed, but the big thing I took from it is they have removed the exemptions for age and off road use. I agree I expect SEMA to lobby and/or sue the EPA, but in this day and age of stupidity I am not spending another penny on the drivetrain for the GTA until this shakes out. I've learned never to underestimate the stupidity of the Gov't. I just think it's ironic if I do have to go back to a SBC for the GTA it will undoubtedly make worse emissions and get much worse MPG than with the LS1 in it, more or less negating their reasoning behind doing it in the first place.

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Post Re: The end of car modding?
Harner wrote:
As someone who has never had an emissions test on any vehicle I've owned, I highly doubt this will happen. Lots of crazy laws are proposed to our government, this one happens to impact our hobby/lives so everyone has their pitchforks in hand. I'll believe it when I see it. And even then, I'm not unmodding any of my vehicles for the sake of EPA. Just my opinion :coffee


That's all fine and dandy but if you read the whole thing too many inspection failures of the federal reg they can confiscate and destroy the car, or impound it indefinitely until it gets fixed. As stated previously, I would hope saner minds will prevail in the end. But then again I thought that with health care and gun control too. I'm sure some compromise will have to be reached, but I'd be highly suspect if it gets to OBD II and newer the more I learn about the changes they made.

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Post Re: The end of car modding?
Sounds like it's time to invest in scrap companies... Between the this and them trying to ban semi-automatic assault rifles. The scrap industry will be booming in a few years. I doubt either will have much traction. So for now I'll keep my pro charger on my 2002 corvette and the AR15.

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You have a pro-charged AR-15?

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Post Re: The end of car modding?
AGREED government always has to try to screw us in a better way than last.... I got my pitch fork ready haha.

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Post Re: The end of car modding?
All good, in theory. I think there is enough backlash already to make them reconsider this.

Yes, assholes like me who don't run catalytic converters on the streets are killing the spotted sea squirrel, and that's all they need to worry about. Oh wait, that's ALREADY illegal.

We had a nice little BBQ on the starting grid when the heat of a guy's exhaust ignited the bodywork because we sat on the line for 10-15 seconds too long. I bet with a catalytic converter in there that we'd have a fire every freaking race.

https://youtu.be/4aCG3q4aA3U?t=45s (watch for the smoke up front - the guy was right behind me on the grid!)

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