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Author:  67Bird [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  My new c6...

Well maybe not as fun but as expensive...

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Author:  Harner [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My new c6...

Wow, that does look really expensive. I always imagined how much of a PITA it is to remove them when you need to replace your shingles. What do they run per panel?

Author:  67Bird [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My new c6...

It would be a day to take them down and a day to put them back when the roof needs replaced. Luckily the south facing roof goes faster than the north so covering most of it up with the panels should help me push the roof out another 5 or more years than normal.

Solar runs around 1,000 a panel when you add the cost of the inverters and associated equipment to support them.

Tom

Author:  PeteW [ Sun May 01, 2011 7:07 am ]
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Wow, that looks awesome. So you are saying you have about $48k sitting there. Holy crap! How much of that are you getting back from the Fed and from the State? I heard last year you were getting back about 60%, but not sure what they are doing this year. Are those enough panels to do your entire house? Are you still hooked up to power lines, or do you have the batteries to store energy? If you are hooked up to the lines, how much is the electrical company going to pay you for the energy you are going to send down the line? Sorry for all the questions, but as you can tell I am very interested in this. I would love to get solar for energy and one of those outside wood burners for heat and hot water and tell them all to go to H@*#. :grin

Author:  banananutz [ Sun May 01, 2011 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My new c6...

nice. details, details.

Author:  67Bird [ Sun May 01, 2011 7:08 pm ]
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Federal tax credit it 30% and has been for years. PA is giving a rebate of .75 per a watt. So we'll get 7,500 back from PA and 12,800 from the feds. Aside from the monthly electric savings you receive SREC's ( solar renewable energy credits) for every KW you produce. We'll produce 1 per a month. These credits are purchased by the electric producers to offset their electric they produce by fossil fuels. If they don't show a certain percentage of renewable energy they pay fines. These credits sell for 200. to 300. depending on the supply and demand in the market.
Unless the SREC market dissapears I should see a ROI on the system in 6 to 8 years.

Since we are an all electric house this only covers about 1/2 our electric for the year. Considering this includes heat if you have another heat source you would not need a system this size.

The PP&L deal is you only get paid for excess electric if you produce more than you use in a 12 month period. Your meter just gives you credit for you excess during the day and then you use that credit when the system is not producing.

Tom

Author:  httrdd [ Mon May 02, 2011 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Wow!

Wow no joke with the title! I dabble in solar hot water manifolds. Solar is the way to go it is just too bad that most cannot afford it anymore.

Author:  PeteW [ Mon May 02, 2011 7:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My new c6...

Thanks for the details. So between state and Fed you getting about 50% back. Close to the 60% I was told. I don't heat my home with electric so I wouldn't need so much. It does look like a real good way to get away from sending my money to everyone else.

I have a couple more questions. Who did the install for you? What kind of lifespan were you told for the panels? Are they able to produce power on the cloudy days we have been having, or ....? Thanks, again. They look great!

Author:  67Bird [ Mon May 02, 2011 12:32 pm ]
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The panels have a 10 year factory warranty and a 25 year production warranty ( they'll produce a min. of 80% of their rated power at 25 years of age).

This is the company that installed it...
Bloom moon enterprises
http://www.bmesolar.com/

Steve was the only guy I found that was doing this longer than 3 years. Everyone else jumped on the band wagon to make money off the rebates. They are just not technical at all...

They do produce power during cloudy days... not much... but some. today is very cloudy. You can compare here... This is the production each day by hour.

http://www.sunnyportal.com/Templates/Pu ... lang=en-US

Tom

Author:  Harner [ Mon May 02, 2011 10:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My new c6...

SNMP panels?

Author:  67Bird [ Tue May 03, 2011 6:17 am ]
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Harner wrote:
SNMP panels?


LOL no... RS485 industrial comunications. I wish it was SNMP I could run my own management system at the house and poll them.

They have a Bluetooth option for comunications from the inverter to comunications box... But since I do so much with wireless daily
I chose the more reliable hardwired route.

Tom

Author:  Harner [ Tue May 03, 2011 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My new c6...

That is pretty interesting. That would be sweet if they used SNMP. You could have a little Cacti box set up and just poll the panels every couple of minutes.

I'm impressed they have a bluetooth option. This company definitely seems to be with the times.

Author:  67Bird [ Tue May 03, 2011 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My new c6...

I'm guessing it will come in time. To tell you the truth this is more of a comercial designed product and the management is designed more a HVAC person than a homeowner. It was funny when I asked for it and the installer ( being residential ) was not familiar with the installation. SMA ( the inverter manufacture) was great to work with and now I can help the installer do this again if he gets a request to do it. I would imagine as residential market grows for solar SMA will become more residential friendly with setup and configuration.

Tom

Author:  httrdd [ Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:28 pm ]
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How are the panels working for you? How much of an electrical difference.

Author:  Eskimo [ Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:37 pm ]
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httrdd wrote:
How are the panels working for you? How much of an electrical difference.


They'd be working a lot better if I hadn't laid all my wet tarps over them to dry - sorry Tom!

Author:  67Bird [ Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My new c6...

Not a problem... BTW thanks for the tarps :D

So far they are working great... But keep in mind they were powered up just before the daylight hours were at their longest. So I really need to see the average of winter months to get a real feel for annual payback.

Our meter has been running reverse for weeks...

Tom

Author:  httrdd [ Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:54 pm ]
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Great to hear!

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